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Rule 9.11 And gaining benefit

Rule 9.11 And gaining benefit

The rule :9.11 Field players must not stop, kick, propel, pick up, throw or carry the ball with any part of their body.
It is not always an offence if the ball hits the foot, hand or body of a field player. The player only commits an offence if they voluntarily use their hand, foot or body to play the ball or if they position themselves with the intention of stopping the ball in this way. It is not an offence if the ball hits the hand holding the stick but would otherwise have hit the stick

The  following is correspondence between myself and Mr. Webb, secy., FIH rules board (HRB) posted with permission. I'm sure it  will be of interest.

To : Roger Webb
Could you please clarify the current situation for me.( and others) :

2007/8 book  The player only commits an offence if they voluntarily use their hand, foot or body.....
An interpretation was issued stating that, none the less, if benefit was gained, the contact, voluntarily or not, should be penalised. ( I never saved a downloaded copy sad  )
In the 2009/10 book the rule is unchanged, but the interpretation, which was in the rules section of the FIH site was deleted some time around the issue of the new rules book.
What is the current ruling? Is any  involuntary body/ball contact ever an offence?
Is there some official place I can point to to confirm one way or another.

Thank you  for your time.
(deegum)

Reply From Roger Webb
WEBB Roger wrote:

Gordon, the rule and accompanying note are exactly the same in the 2009 rules as they were in the 2007/2008 version – so nothing has changed.   

But you only quote the first part of the note whereas you must also take account of the second part of the note: or if they position themselves with the intention of stopping the ball in this way.  So, yes, the two essential conditions for an offence are either voluntary use of hand, foot or body or a player positioning themselves – just as it says in the note to the Rule !!!
Regards, Roger

Bolding by myself

Edited By: deegum
Saturday 30 Jan 2010 03:56:13
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Sorry, but that is gobbledegook to me ......the first part says ONLY and his explanation gives two answers.

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It somehow seems like they are saying that everyone who is hit by a ball on the foot should be assumed to be placing themselves in the way on purpose...

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These two responses really surprise me, especially given the  people making them.
Like the man says the rule means what it says.
YOu mustn't play the ball with your body.
But it only counts as playing if you could avoid ball body contact, ( voluntary contact)  or if you demonstrate intent to use your body.- eg as a back up. That of course is difficult to judge
But the really important part is that gaining benefit from an  involuntary contact,  is NOT an offence.
Which is what I thought, and why I wrote in the first place.

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In reality though isn't Kaiwawao right?  Particularly in the D, at all levels and in particular international, 99% of the time the ball hits a foot a PC is given.  Taking away those where it is deliberate (and not a PS) the only conclusion that you can reach is that on every other occasion the umpire deems the defender to have placed himself in the position with the intent of stopping the ball in that way.

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I'm not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with both what I thought and what you think I thought!

My opinion of the rule is still blow it when they gain an advantage as hockey is a sport which is based around stick on ball not foot, however, the rules as written, since they were reworded to remove the "gains advantage", do not have the literal wording to say that a ball -> foot is a foul except where they either do it intentionally or move into the line of the ball / position themselves with the intent to stop it with their body.

I find the rules on playing the ball on foot to be one of the most deliberately ignored rules in the game (insert comment here on dangerous lifted balls), I have seen plenty of games on TV and in person at high level where an attacker will run into the D and play the ball directly onto a defence foot, quite often even if there is a better pass on. The ball can even be moving off the pitch (e.g. played towards the back line) and certainly have no-one in the space where the ball would have gone to had it not hit the foot, but the umpires rarely (I've never seen it) blow it as a "forced foul". The common answer is usually 1 of 2 - either that the defender should be good enough to defend their feet, which I don't buy as they're often running with the attacker who cuts back behind them or across them and plays it direct onto foot followed by an immediate stop of play look up at the umpire and usually wave stick around; or the second, that the umpire says they can't be sure of the "intent" to play it onto the foot even given the scenario above. The same umpires, incidentally, will often say they are certain the defender placed themselves in the line of a shot on goal or that they are certain a defender stood on the line to stop the ball with their body if they missed with a stick, but that's another story wink

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I'm not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with both what I thought and what you think I thought!

hmmlol
I absolutely agree with your third  paragraph.
And completely fail to understand how you get to this:

It somehow seems like they are saying that everyone who is hit by a ball on the foot should be assumed to be placing themselves in the way on purpose...

But this rule (  without the now deleted guidance about gaining benefit) would eliminate the old ball on foot=PC trick.
I took a look back in history and up to about 2000 the rule was very clear.. the player should not be penalised for involuntary ball/body contact, and there were nice clear guidelines.
This is a return to it. I have no  trouble with it.
I also saw the FIH champions Trophy 1999 ( both men 's and women's) in Brisbane where the rule was initially applied as now written.
It worked, but the problem they had was it was applied to a collection of the world's most skilful cheats, and the umpires of course were not used to the " correct" application.
But it certainly reduced the number of PCs.

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kaiwawao wrote:

I'm not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with both what I thought and what you think I thought!

Not sure!  I think I was agreeing - certainly with the point you make in the third paragraph which is what I was trying to say less eloquently.  Although the rule is clear it just doesn't seem to be what is umpired - ie most ball to foot in the D is given as a corner when in reality you can't determine that it was voluntary or that the player positioned themself with the intent of stopping it in that way - so the rule is being ignored.

It is a strange one though as it doesn't cause a massive amount of debate in games,  In most matches I have watched, played or umpired, both defenders and attackers expect a PC or FH when ball hits the foot regardless of intent.

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I have just been watching the highlights of the Eng v Aus game at the World Cup........ I lost count of the number of PCs which were 'won', and the number of feet that were 'looked-for' and 'found' in the circle .... the forced foul rule is simply ignored by most umpires.
(PS I won't dwell on the final score wink )

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Conversion rate of 1 goal from 12 PCs must rank as some sort of record

the forced foul rule is simply ignored by most umpires.

Wouldn't it be nice if umpires would umpire to the rules/
I didn't see the match, but I doubt that you could be wrong so many  times Roger.
I generally think that if there are one  or two  umpire decisions that seem  to me " blatantly wrong" I'm probably missing something, but when there are heaps on the one subject....

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As a preliminary to any discussion about 'gains benefit' it is necessary to understand the difference between. 'Advantage'; 'Disadvantaged Opponents'; and 'Gains Benefit'. First though, how the term 'gains benefit ' arose.
In a major rewrite of the Rules of Hockey, undertaken with the aid of the Rules Advisory Panel after “wide ranging consultation” Rule and Guidance on Advantage and body contact with the ball, was produced in 1995 in a new format of rulebook. The previous rule, the precursor of 'gains benefit' 

  12.1.(f) A player shall not deliberately stop, propel or deflect the ball on the ground or in the air with any part of the body TO HIS OR HIS TEAM'S ADVANTAGE (save as provided for goalkeepers in Rule 12.11(c)).

was removed. As yet there was no ''gains benefit'' clause to replace the advantage mentioned .

  Advantage: a penalty shall be awarded only when a player or team has been clearly disadvantaged by an opponent's offence.

13.1.2    Use of body, hands, feet
A player shall not:


a.    stop the ball with the hand or catch it

There is nothing to prevent players using their hands to protect themselves from dangerously raised balls.

b.    intentionally stop, kick, propel, pick up, throw or carry the ball with any part of their bodies

    It is not an offence if the ball hits the foot or body of a player unless that player:

       -has moved into the path of the ball, or

       -made no effort to avoid being hit, or

       -was positioned with the clear intention of stopping the ball.

Players should not be penalised when the ball is played at them from a short distance.


Almost immediately this rule was put to use it was realized there was at very least a need for a method to disallow a goal unfairly scored if the intention to play the ball with the body was not obvious  – so 'gains benefit' was created. A method of 'creating' an offence in these exceptional circumstances: 

or gains undue benefit
                                                                 was added


By 1997  it was realized that positioning with the clear intention of stopping the ball is not an offence if a player uses or intends/attempts to use the stick so that clause was adjusted and we were given:.

Use of body, hands, fee.                A player shall not:

a.     stop or catch the ball with the hand

    There is nothing to prevent players using their hands to protect themselves from     dangerously raised balls.

b.     intentionally stop, kick, propel, pick up, throw or carry the ball with any part of their bodies

    It is not an offence if the ball hits the foot or body of a player unless that player :

         - has moved into the path of the ball, or
         - made no effort to avoid being hit or
         - was positioned with the clear intention of stopping the ball with the foot or body or
         - gains benefit.

Players should not be penalised when the ball is played at them from a short distance.


The word 'undue' was deleted – I don't know why. There was another major rewrite in 2004, with significant alterations:

Rule.9.9. Field players must not stop, kick, propel, pick up,  throw or  carry  the  ball  with any  part of  their body.

It  is not an  offence if  the  ball  hits  the foot, hand or body of a field  player, unless that player or their team benefits from this.


A wording, if 'benefit 'is replaced with 'advantage', this is remarkably similar to the wording used in 1994 – almost full circle –  any change  is an illusion. There have since been minor adjustments and , we go to-and -fro.

As reference to 'benefit' has recently been deleted for a second (or is it a third?) time, (a common feature giving the appearance of many rule changes where few have actually occurred) the stage is set for the question “Do we need a 'gains benefit ' clause?”

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To continue....
The difference  between. 'Advantage'; 'Disadvantaged Opponents'; and 'Gains Benefit' can be gleaned from the context within which the terms are used in previous rulebooks.

Advantage: a penalty shall be awarded only when a player or team has been clearly disadvantaged by an opponent's offence.


For an umpire to allow an advantage to be played there has to have been an offence which could have been penalized but it was more advantageous to the team offended against not to have the benefit of the available penalty but to play on.

Umpires have been instructed not to penalize where advantage or allowing play to continue would be the greater penalty against the offending side (this does not preclude the use of cards after the advantage has played out and/or at the first stoppage of play). In fact the instruction goes further and demands that no team penalty be applied unless an offence actually disadvantages the team offended against.

So what is an offence? I see it as an intentional breach of the rules - except that previously (until 2007 or 2009 it's not entirely clear which - but I will write in the present tense because 'gains benefit' is still applied)  in the case of ball/body contact.

It is not an offence if the ball hits the foot or body of a player unless that player :
- has moved into the path of the ball, or
- made no effort to avoid being hit or
- was positioned with the clear intention of stopping the ball with the foot or body or
- gains benefit.


Unintentional rule breaches are therefore clearly not considered to be offences except when the player or the team of the player concerned gain a benefit ,or more accurately, an undue or unfair benefit.

The difference between 'Disadvantaged opponents' and 'Advantage' is that in the first play physically cannot, or in fairness to the team offended against, should not continue, so a penalty must be awarded; in the second play can continue –  Guidance insists that if this is the case then it must continue. They are similar in that in both cases an offence will have occurred – that is  (to expand the earlier definition) an intentional breach of the rules the umpire can and may choose to penalise.

'Gained Benefit' arises when there is a breach of rule but no intent and therefore no offence but, in fairness to the opposing team the action should be penalised. I think the previous Guidance put this badly “Not an offence unless that player gains benefit”.

I would suggest an action is either an offence or it is not based on the intent of the perpetrator as seen by the umpire. “An unfair advantage gained from an unintentional breach of the rules” is probably near enough to what is meant, but the syntax and semantics although essential to a general understanding of the principles are not the most important thing.

The important things are the type of incident and the outcome – that is what exactly the benefit gained is and what action led to it. 

The reason 'gained benefit' is so unsatisfactory a device is that it is a vague term, and one of subjective judgement and therefore open to personal opinion, and so to inconsistency, abuse or incompetence, as all such judgements are. It is also not entirely logical, a particular action should generally be either an offence or not an offence, independent of outcome.
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in conclusion....


Some umpires will (do) insist that any contact with the foot/body is always of benefit to the player making such contact and therefore is an offence  (these umpires may not penalise if this happens in mid-field with opponents at distance – using 'no disadvantage' -, but they will certainly award a penalty corner on every occasion there is a defenders foot contact in the circle and opponents are close). The problem in these cases is that when 'forcing' occurs they usually see the result of that but not the intent to do it and the innocent party is penalised.

Other umpires have demanded a more closely defined 'benefit gained' seeing the vague 'catch all' as a liability to flowing hockey and to fairness. These umpire seem to have 'won the day' at present (as least as far as the written rules are concerned) but there is now a vacuum in application and it is being filled with the equally vague 'disadvantaged opponents' as a direct replacement for 'gained benefit' – but following  the reasoning  given above ( to recap, 'disadvantaged' occurs when there has been an offence which requires a penalty be awarded; 'gains benefit' when technically there has been no offence but one is 'created' by the umpire for the sake of fair play or a fair outcome) therefore these two terms are not always completely interchangeable.

I believe that there is a case to be made for including a 'gained benefit' clause in the Rules of Hockey, in fact I consider it essential, but the appropriate application must be precisely defined and very limited in scope – much as referral to a video umpire originally was.

The first reason for including 'gained benefit is the prevention of a certain goal  by means of an unintentional rule breach – say the ball deflects off the stick of a team-mate at the last moment and hits the foot of a defender on the goal-line. To penalize is not exactly fair, the defender has not committed an offence, but it has long been accepted that there is justification for a penalty stroke in these cases (presumably, in the absence of a gains benefit clause, and (semantically, technically) incorrectly because there is no offence, 'disadvantaged opponents' is used at the moment) , so the rules  'bent' in favour of the attack. Where an attacker with the entire goal to shoot at manages to hit the foot of a solitary defender on the goal-line penalty seems even more unjust, but that is the way it is – a goal prevented with unintentional rule breach is reason to award a penalty stroke – that is set out clearly enough in the Penalties section of the rulebook – and the only justification available is 'unfair gaining of a benefit from an illicit action'.

The second reason is my own suggestion. It is not possible to define it as closely as the first but it is limited. It is the propelling of the ball, by rebound, deflection etc. to the advantage of the team of the player hit with the ball (provided there has not been previous dangerous or forcing play by opponents). The ball would have to be propelled beyond the playing reach of the player hit and the result of the travel of the ball must effectively be a pass to a team-mate or to where it can be collected unopposed by a team-mate OR to cause the ball to evade a closing opponent who would otherwise have been in a position to challenge for it i.e. propelled to a position behind him or beyond his reach. (Such a rebound/deflection, when there was no closing or other immediately disadvantaged opponent, would not attract penalty and be 'play-on situations).

Merely stopping the ball or gaining or retaining possession of it would not be considered an undue benefit – after all the ball should not be propelled in any direction where the result is an unavoidable or accidental foot/body contact by an opponent – that is just bad (unskilled) play and should not be rewarded. Forcing a contact should obviously be penalised; not rewarded.

That's it, that's the framework: Unintentional foot/body contacts are a rule breach but not an offence that should be penalised except in the two circumstances given. Gains benefit to be a Rule exception with two defining clauses .

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